1709 and backups

On December 31, 2017, in news, by susan

I’m monitoring a possible issue (again hat tip to Peter Perry again) with client backups (and backups in general) once 1709 is installed.


In my 1709 testing I’m not seeing this, but I haven’t rolled it out firmwide to get a good feel.  Anyone else seeing this in their networks?


5 Responses to 1709 and backups

  1. Pete Perry says:

    Deleting shadows copies on the client running the command below as admin then rebooting will fix this issue sometimes.

    vssadmin delete shadows /all

  2. Bill says:

    “System Image Backup (SIB) Solution

    We recommend that users use full-disk backup solutions from other vendors.”

    Features that are removed or deprecated in Windows 10 Fall Creators Update

  3. Pete Perry says:

    Received a call from Microsoft support. They reproduced the issue on their labs. Stay tuned for a solution.

  4. Crysta T Lacey says:

    Hi Susan,

    I left this on Dan’s page per LINK above.

    Crysta T. Lacey replied to Dan Berry ‎2018-01-27 05:43 PM

    I feel your pain. As an Insider I have had that problem many, many times. Most of the time, I didn’t even get a Error thrown, just a bad or incomplete Image whether I used 3rd party or not. In other words it was all VSS.

    My solutions are.

    1. Stick with third party that are Good and Reliable.
    2. Never rely on VSS, Always Backup from WinPE with the same 3rd Party’s Recovery Tools.

    The reason, One never knows if one has a faulty Image until One is Restoring it. I will look fine, Verify fine in all ways, but if VSS has jangled something one finds out at the worst possible time.

    One never know when VSS is going to get a minor update or Revision. It is completely out of the Users/IT/Admins/DevOPS control. Is the resultant update good, stay tuned, if you used it for a Backup you will find out later.

    Best Regards,


    PS I came looking for a post on our recent adventures with Meltdown and Spectre. I am not leaving disappointed but do look forward to that post.

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